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Response to Why I left the Prophetic Movement

Response to Why I left the Prophetic Movement

An African Perspective

By Kato Mivule

I read with interest the article on "Why I left the Prophetic Movement" by Andrew Strom, I thank God that he did and also have put out a warning to everyone. Well I live in Kansas City too, and I am from Uganda, Africa, I have been for a long time disgusted at the manipulation and games that these prophets play, mainly lust for money and power.

There is a strong spirit of greed for money and power here in the West and this spirit asserts itself in very sophisticated ways that it takes discerning from God to uncover these evil demons of control, power and money. I found out that those who don't preach the prosperity gospel, like most TV preachers we know, actually practice the prosperity gospel by their way of life, they do it in such a subtle way that it is not open to the simple minded eye. The other trouble is that the movement is so attached to the issue of power and who should be in control, just like much of the Christendom Churches do.

The lust for power comes from a false spirit that has duped the Western churches and ministries to be run like corporate organizations. We have the structure similar to that of any corporate organization inside these churches and ministries, there are CEOs, etc and maybe that is why most churches here enjoy the IRS 501(c) tax exemption status. This problem is not just a 'Prophetic/charismatic' issue but also a symptom of the extent at which the moneyed suburbanized American church has decomposed with her continual adultery with the present world and Satan.

This spirit of dominionism has so much been epitomized in the just concluded presidential elections. Christians have been deceived that they have to “take back” all government control and create a so-called Christian nation, such deceit is not only alarming but very heartbreaking cause those who have studied history know exactly what happened when Constantine the infamous Roman emperor did when he institutionalized Christianity as the official religion. History tells us what happened next. Jesus said simply and very plainly that his kingdom is not of this world.

Secondly I believe strongly with all my heart that true dominion power and rule belong only to Jesus Christ and He will establish that when He comes and not now through the suburbanized American church. The Suburb Church of America has been deceived into believing that God will only accomplish His will and purposes through them and not any one else, they see them selves as supporting and fulfilling the great commission and all the so-called "prophetic" purposes of God, one wonders why missionaries leave America and go to evangelize other nations, spending billions of dollars a year and yet cannot even help their fellow brothers in Christ who pray in a partial renovated beat-up former store structures in the inner Cities that look much like a war zone.

The devil has been successful in making them hate their inner city or poor brother while making expensive flights to preach to us in Africa or the rest of the so-called "third world" who are normally seen as "heathens" or those living in the "dark continent". This dominion spirit is no different from colonialism and imperialism. It is not a spirit from Christ; it is the spirit of man. So when it comes to evangelism, again there is control and dominion from the Rich Young Ruler, The American Church.

The lack of concern and blaming the poor by the American church is nauseating. The American Church has been deceived by the devil into joining hands with the so-called conservative and democrats in fighting against the poor in America by blaming the poor for their predicament. Those who read the Bible prophets like Isaiah, etc, know that God has drawn a clear line. Those who fight against the widows, poor and orphans, fight against God, for God is their protector. These Rich preachers are engaging in fistfights with The Lord, and will ultimately loose. The 'prophetic movement' including the so-called Religious Right Christians sadly have succumbed to such deceit from the devil and so blinded that they cannot see this clearly.

Those who are simple minded however, will not want to hear this or even enjoy reading such articles. But like the current politicians are saying, "you can fool some people all the time but cannot fool all people all the time", those with discernment from the Holy Spirit and God’s Word will not be deceived.

The church in America should receive the Lord's rebuke with all their heart and strengthen what remains otherwise they risk being given deep into the spirit of the evil one. The repentance here is not just confessing sins religiously but the Mathew Chapter 3 repentance that bares fruit.

Matthew 3:7-10

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. 10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire

The John the Baptist repentance which bares fruit is what is required otherwise the axe is laid at the root of the American church tree to cut it down and throw it in the fire if no one heeds to God's voice and repents from dead works of men and Satan.

I stand with you in prayer and know that what is happening to you is not just an isolation or a single incident but happening to many brothers and sisters in Christ around the World.

Your Brother in Christ from Uganda, Africa

Kato Mivule

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Luther on ecumenism and papacy

History of the Papacy by J.A. Wylie: "...the Church (so-called) of Rome has no right to rank amongst Christian Churches. She is not a Church, neither is her religion the Christian religion. We are accustomed to speak of Popery as a corrupt form of Christianity. We concede too much. The Church of Rome bears the same relation to the Church of Christ which the hierarchy of Baal bore to the institute of Moses; and Popery stands related to Christianity only in the same way in which Paganism stood related to primeval Revelation. Popery is not a corruption simply, but a transformation. It may be difficult to fix the time when it passed from the one into the other; but the change is incontestible. Popery is the gospel transubstantiated into the flesh and blood of Paganism, under a few of the accidents of Christianity."

Martin Luther

Just as in the days of the Apostles, so at this day we are forced to hear from certain denominations that we (by our obstinacy to adhere to the truth) do offend against love and unity in the churches, because we reject their doctrine. It would be better (they say) that we should let it pass, especially since the doctrine in dispute is what they call non-essential, and, therefore (they say) to stir up so great a discord and contention in the church over one or two doctrines (and those not the most important ones) is unfruitful and unnecessary.

To this I reply: Cursed be that love and unity which cannot be preserved except at the peril of the word of God.

The negotiation about doctrinal agreement displeases me altogether, for this is utterly impossible unless the pope has his papacy abolished. Therefore avoid and flee those who seek the middle of the road. Think of me after I am dead and such middle-of-the-road men arise, for nothing good will come of it. There can be no compromise. (What Luther Says, II: 1019)

Ah, my dear brother in Christ, bear with me if here or elsewhere I use such coarse language when speaking of the wretched, confronted, atrocious monster at Rome! He who knows my thoughts must say that I am much, much, much too lenient and have neither words nor thought adequately to describe the shameful, abominable blasphemy to which he subjects the Word and name of Christ, our dear Lord and Savior. There are some Christians, wicked Christians indeed, who now would gloss things over to make the pope appear against in a good light and who, after he does so and has been dragged out of the mud, would like to reinstate him on the altar. But they are wicked people, whoever they may be, who defend the pope and want me to be quiet about the means whereby he has done harm. Truly, I cannot do this. All true, pious Christians, who love Christ and His Word, should, as said, be sincerely hostile to the pope. They should persecute him and injure him…. All should do this in their several calling, to the best of their ability, with all faithfulness and diligence. (What Luther Says, II: 1072)

What kind of a church is the pope’s church? It is an uncertain, vacillating and tottering church. Indeed, it is a deceitful, lying church, doubting and unbelieving, without God’s Word. For the pope with his wrong keys teaches his church to doubt and to be uncertain. If it is a vacillating church, then it is not the church of faith, for the latter is founded upon a rock, and the gates of hell cannot prevail against it (Matt.16:18). If it is not the church of faith, then it is not the Christian church, but it must be an unchristian, anti-Christian, and faithless church which destroys and ruins the real, holy, Christian church. (Luther’s Works, vol. 40, Church and Ministry II, The Keys, p.348)

All this is to be noted carefully, so that we can treat with contempt the filthy, foolish twaddle that the popes present in their decrees about their Roman church, that is, about their devil’s synagogue (Rev.2:9), which separates itself from common Christendom and the spiritual edifice built up on this stone, and instead invents for itself a fleshly worldly, worthless, lying, blasphemous, idolatrous authority over all of Christendom. One of these two things must be true: if the Roman church is not built on this rock along with the other churches, then it is the devil’s church; but if it is built, along with all the other churches, on this rock, then it cannot be lord or head over the other churches. For Christ the cornerstone knows nothing of two unequal churches, but only of one church alone, just as the Children’s Faith, that is, the faith of all of Christendom, says, ”I believe in one holy, Christian church,” and does not say, ”I believe in one holy Roman church.” The Roman church is and should be one portion or member of the holy Christian church, not the head, which befits solely Christ the cornerstone. If not, it is not a Christian but an UN-Christian and anti-Christian church, that is, a papal school of scoundrels. (Luther’s Works, Volume 41, Church and Ministry III, Against The Roman Papacy, An Institution Of The Devil, p.311)

I believe the pope is the masked and incarnate devil because he is the Antichrist. As Christ is God incarnate, so the Antichrist is the devil incarnate. The words are really spoken of the pope when its said that hes a mixed god, an earthly god, that is , a god of the earth. Here god is understood as god of this world. Why does he call himself an earthly god, as if the one, almighty God werent also on the earth? The kingdom of the pope really signifies the terrible wrath of God, namely, the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place. (Luthers Works, vol.54, Table Talks, No.4487, p.346)

C. H. Spurgeon on Popery

"It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray against Antichrist, and as to what Antichrist is no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the Popery in the Church of Rome there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name. It wounds Christ, robs Christ of His glory, puts sacramental efficacy in the place of His atonement, and lifts a piece of bread in the place of the Saviour....If we pray against it, because it is against Him, we shall love the persons though we hate their errors; we shall love their souls, though we loathe and detest their dogmas...."

-- C. H. Spurgeon

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Heb 11:25 Han ville hellre utstå lidande med Guds folk än för en kort tid leva i syndig njutning;
Heb 12:2 Och må vi därvid se på Jesus, trons hövding och fullkomnare, på honom, som i stället för att taga den glädje som låg framför honom, utstod korsets lidande och aktade smäleken för intet, och som nu sitter på högra sidan om Guds tron.
Heb 12:3 Ja, på honom, som har utstått så mycken gensägelse av syndare, på honom mån I tänka, så att I icke tröttnen och uppgivens i edra själar.
Heb 12:15 Och sen till, att ingen går miste om Guds nåd, och att ingen giftig rot skjuter skott och bliver till fördärv, så att menigheten därigenom bliver besmittad;
Heb 12:16 sen till, att ingen är en otuktig människa eller ohelig såsom Esau, han som för en enda maträtt sålde sin förstfödslorätt.
Heb 12:17 I veten ju att han ock sedermera blev avvisad, när han på grund av arvsrätt ville få välsignelsen; han kunde nämligen icke vinna någon ändring, fastän han med tårar sökte därefter.
Heb 10:36 I behöven nämligen ståndaktighet för att kunna göra Guds vilja och få vad utlovat är.
Heb 10:37 Ty "ännu en helt liten tid, så kommer den som skall komma, och han skall icke dröja;
Heb 10:38 och min rättfärdige skall leva av tro. Men om någon drager sig undan, så finner min själ icke behag i honom".
Heb 10:39 Dock, vi höra icke till dem som draga sig undan, sig själva till fördärv; vi höra till dem som tro och så vinna sina själar.

Ord 25:26 Såsom en grumlad källa och en fördärvad brunn, så är en rättfärdig som vacklar inför den ogudaktige.

Upp 3:16 Men nu, då du är ljum och varken varm eller kall, skall jag utspy dig ur min mun.

Se Ljum, sammanblandad, mixad, förväxlad, utbytt, utväxlad, ersatt, avlöst, efterträdd, liknöjd, likgiltig!

2Ti 4:7 Jag har kämpat den goda kampen, jag har fullbordat mitt lopp, jag har bevarat tron.
2Ti 4:8 Nu ligger rättfärdighetens segerkrans tillreds åt mig, och Herren, den rättfärdige domaren, skall giva den åt mig på "den dagen", och icke åt mig allenast, utan åt alla som hava älskat hans tillkommelse.